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(2014-01-24, 19:41)bay Wrote: (2014-01-24, 19:34)elsita Wrote: I know i can make duration longer cutting services, but that is not the use I want from a smartphone, i want all the functions working as I have done with previous android phones, this phone is not capable of giving a normal use for a smartphone without draining the battery, it is a toy, not a serious phone
Depends on the apps you have been using. If you've been playing games, watching videos online, naturally this will cause greater battery drain. Don't want to teach anyone to 'suck eggs', but as we all know some apps are designed for heavy battery drain. I have to also ask - have you gone through & disabled any auto-starting apps from boot? This can cause an issue with any android. Its the first thing I do.
I would also highly recommend use of DS Battery Pro. This app is very good (particularly in aggressive mode) in shutting down signals & conserving the batt when left alone.
Just trying to be helpful here.
thanks for your suggestion, in the time the graphic shows, less than an hour, not even a heavy game would drain so much the battery, but that is not the case, the use I have given the phone in that chart is reading email and tapatalk and visiting a couple of web pages, nothing much heavy
I insist that the apps I have installed are the same apps I had with my old galaxy s and my zopo 810, it is my normal usual everyday use configuration, unless you know some normal app like tapatalk, or maybe tweetcaster, or perhaps gmail are incompatible with this phone, that is not the problem
i don't need any battery spy program to know that this phone drains the battery with extremely light use
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(2014-01-24, 19:46)elsita Wrote: (2014-01-24, 19:41)bay Wrote: (2014-01-24, 19:34)elsita Wrote: I know i can make duration longer cutting services, but that is not the use I want from a smartphone, i want all the functions working as I have done with previous android phones, this phone is not capable of giving a normal use for a smartphone without draining the battery, it is a toy, not a serious phone
Depends on the apps you have been using. If you've been playing games, watching videos online, naturally this will cause greater battery drain. Don't want to teach anyone to 'suck eggs', but as we all know some apps are designed for heavy battery drain. I have to also ask - have you gone through & disabled any auto-starting apps from boot? This can cause an issue with any android. Its the first thing I do.
I would also highly recommend use of DS Battery Pro. This app is very good (particularly in aggressive mode) in shutting down signals & conserving the batt when left alone.
Just trying to be helpful here.
thanks for your suggestion, in the time the graphic shows, less than an hour, not even a heavy game would drain so much the battery, but that is not the case, the use I have given the phone in that chart is reading email and tapatalk and visiting a couple of web pages, nothing much heavy
I insist that the apps I have installed are the same apps I had with my old galaxy s and my zopo 810, it is my normal usual everyday use configuration, unless you know some normal app like tapatalk, or maybe tweetcaster, or perhaps gmail are incompatible with this phone, that is not the problem
i don't need any battery spy program to know that this phone drains the battery with extremely light use
I agree the battery is not great. But remember, its only an 1800mah - which is pretty low these days. Apps - such as tweetcaster - are pretty well known for starting at boot & running in the background, thus providing drain without knowing. If you have the xposed framework installed I'd recommend installing Boot Manager & disabling any app you don't need to start at boot, same with using Autorun Manager. Again, just a couple of thoughts that might help - although the limited battery size won't help either.
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(2014-01-24, 19:49)bay Wrote: (2014-01-24, 19:46)elsita Wrote: (2014-01-24, 19:41)bay Wrote: Depends on the apps you have been using. If you've been playing games, watching videos online, naturally this will cause greater battery drain. Don't want to teach anyone to 'suck eggs', but as we all know some apps are designed for heavy battery drain. I have to also ask - have you gone through & disabled any auto-starting apps from boot? This can cause an issue with any android. Its the first thing I do.
I would also highly recommend use of DS Battery Pro. This app is very good (particularly in aggressive mode) in shutting down signals & conserving the batt when left alone.
Just trying to be helpful here.
thanks for your suggestion, in the time the graphic shows, less than an hour, not even a heavy game would drain so much the battery, but that is not the case, the use I have given the phone in that chart is reading email and tapatalk and visiting a couple of web pages, nothing much heavy
I insist that the apps I have installed are the same apps I had with my old galaxy s and my zopo 810, it is my normal usual everyday use configuration, unless you know some normal app like tapatalk, or maybe tweetcaster, or perhaps gmail are incompatible with this phone, that is not the problem
i don't need any battery spy program to know that this phone drains the battery with extremely light use
I agree the battery is not great. But remember, its only an 1800mah - which is pretty low these days. Apps - such as tweetcaster - are pretty well known for starting at boot & running in the background, thus providing drain without knowing. If you have the xposed framework installed I'd recommend installing Boot Manager & disabling any app you don't need to start at boot, same with using Autorun Manager. Again, just a couple of thoughts that might help - although the limited battery size won't help either.
i have been using tweetcaster for years now and no phone has drained its battery as this does
and what you say about 1800 mah batteries, my wife is using a THL W200 with a 1800 mah battery sinces summer and she gets usually two days battery time with one full charge, she has all the services activated all the time, and uses tweetcaster much more than I do
so your ideas sadly do not help much here, anyway thanks for your help
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(2014-01-24, 19:49)bay Wrote: If you have the xposed framework installed I'd recommend installing Boot Manager & disabling any app you don't need to start at boot, same with using Autorun Manager.
Now that you have mentioned Xposed, I would recommend Greenify module and give it a try. It basicaly hibernates selected apps when you're not using them.
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what I would recommend is to honestly recognize that this phone cannot have full day of work unless you start to engineer with the software and cutting services ...
this phone is defective in its design or making, you don't need to do anything like you propose on a normal phone to get a day of battery normal use ...
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2014-01-24, 21:34
(This post was last modified: 2014-01-24, 21:35 by Elusivo.)
I've owned a few different android devices, and all of them, even with a 2500MAh battery, died in 4-5h of heavy use and less even. With screen on and actively using apps i don't think there's much to be done except stopping them from launching at boot or some other events, or just use them less often, not to mention low screen brightness...
Besides not allowing apps to start, what always works is to see if the phone goes into deep sleep when the screen is off, for me it made the difference for example between loosing just 3% at night while sleeping with wifi on, to lose 15% even with wifi off. Just had to see what was causing wakelocks and deal with it. BetterBatteryStats is great for that.
Remember that each phone has a customized kernel and rom, that are usually updated to deal with drains and such, and that can account for all the differences between different phones, not necessarily faulty design, wait some more time for the phone software to mature and or maybe some custom roms ^^
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(2014-01-24, 21:34)Elusivo Wrote: Remember that each phone has a customized kernel and rom...
I don't get that one. Can you elaborate please?
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(2014-01-24, 22:19)Burs Wrote: (2014-01-24, 21:34)Elusivo Wrote: Remember that each phone has a customized kernel and rom...
I don't get that one. Can you elaborate please?
he means that what may work fine in one device can cause problems in another one
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(2014-01-24, 23:27)elsita Wrote: (2014-01-24, 22:19)Burs Wrote: (2014-01-24, 21:34)Elusivo Wrote: Remember that each phone has a customized kernel and rom...
I don't get that one. Can you elaborate please?
he means that what may work fine in one device can cause problems in another one
Then that's "customized" hardware, and not customized software (kernel & rom)
By the former I mean that not every hardware part is of the same quality.
I know what he ment, but it doesn't look good the way he described it
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some very usefull hints here but im still interested in a solution for the original post which was about battery charging to 100%,have the makers acknowledged the problem???
(2014-01-24, 23:31)Burs Wrote: (2014-01-24, 23:27)elsita Wrote: (2014-01-24, 22:19)Burs Wrote: I don't get that one. Can you elaborate please?
he means that what may work fine in one device can cause problems in another one
Then that's "customized" hardware, and not customized software (kernel & rom)
By the former I mean that not every hardware part is of the same quality.
I know what he ment, but it doesn't look good the way he described it
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