Don't buy MEIZU Products !!! Dangerous and not fixable

[wolfgart]

[mirandam]

By any chance Meizu may be a derivative company of Apple ?

In my humble opinion ranting on a company startegy is ok, but throwing the law at them is not ok. When you buy a product you accept how it is made, there is no law about how to make a product (except for the materials used and the environmental issues).
edcoolio (* see edit below) is right in stating you are responsible for what you do with your phone. The manufacturer is not except for failures from normal use which are normally covered in the warranty.

CPA contains ample information on how to make a complete and valid backup, which any sane user should do before modifying their phone. That way you can always revert your phone to its original state. This is each users own responsibility.

Nobody points a gun at your head telling you must flash a custom recovery. 9 out of 10 time you don't even need it anyway.
If your car has an anti-theft blocking system that doesn't allow you to start it using a copy of your key that wasn't made by the manufacturer, I don't see anyone throwing the law at the car producer for that.

You are right to explain what has happened to you, but don't take it out on other users for having a different opinion, and never judge their knowledge on their opinion, you may be way off.

EDIT: excuse me for the error, I said edcoolio when in fact it was Sniper47.

[acer73]

All Wolfgart's wording is pure true to help understand this incredible situation I decompile recovery.img. Look secur directory. Incredible work for Meizu. In this way isn't GPL compliance and very dangerous without windows tool
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[wolfgart]

By any chance Meizu may be a derivative company of Apple ?

In my humble opinion ranting on a company startegy is ok, but throwing the law at them is not ok. When you buy a product you accept how it is made, there is no law about how to make a product (except for the materials used and the environmental issues).
edcoolio is right in stating you are responsible for what you do with your phone. The manufacturer is not except for failures from normal use which are normally covered in the warranty.

CPA contains ample information on how to make a complete and valid backup, which any sane user should do before modifying their phone. That way you can always revert your phone to its original state. This is each users own responsibility.

Nobody points a gun at your head telling you must flash a custom recovery. 9 out of 10 time you don't even need it anyway.
If your car has an anti-theft blocking system that doesn't allow you to start it using a copy of your key that wasn't made by the manufacturer, I don't see anyone throwing the law at the car producer for that.

You are right to explain what has happened to you, but don't take it out on other users for having a different opinion, and never judge their knowledge on their opinion, you may be way off.

you are right when you say that user should do a backup of their phone before go ahead but please, you don't know what are you talking about.

I've made a FULL DUMP of my device before go ahead with modding, problem is that all the way to restore this crap phone all closed by manufacturer .

-Fastboot mode is locked against writing

-There are no Desktop solution for restore. Meizu don't have ever made for their products

- OS don't boot anymore if recovery status check change, and you can't use Android adb on your OS

-if you loose recovery partition for some reason on this products you are a dead man. Your full dump will be only rubbish


This is completely Lawless for me and for what i've seen in the hundreds devices i've modded in my life....

[mirandam]

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you are right when you say that user should do a backup of their phone before go ahead but please, you don't know what are you talking about.
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And you haven't understood a word of what I told you not to do.

Rough words and erroneous assumptions are not going to help you.

To make a point and get the help you want, clean up your act and stick to the facts.

And: "a backup is as useful as the successful recovery of it".

[wolfgart]

...
you are right when you say that user should do a backup of their phone before go ahead but please, you don't know what are you talking about.
...

And you haven't understood a word of what I told you not to do.

Rough words and erroneous assumptions are not going to help you.

To make a point and get the help you want, clean up your act and stick to the facts.

And: "a backup is as useful as the successful recovery of it".

You can't restore backup.

You don't want undestand.

Look at @acer73 post in this thread

[mirandam]

Since you're so keen on telling me what I want to understand or not, you'll be pleased to see the rest of my answer here:

[edcoolio]

To summarize my views:

The user must take responsibility for all actions taken on their device by them. Period.

Meizu had done nothing illegal and is under no legal obligation to help the user. Period.

The question of morality does not come into play (at least personally). It simply seems that Meizu has done this purposefully, for some unknown reason, contrary to the industry norm of most manufacturers... to their own possible detriment. It is, however, completely unexpected.

Meizu must understand that, when making such "Apple/Microsoft" decisions on a supposedly open platform (Android), there will be those that do not seem to mind and those that consider it unacceptable. Certain flavors of Linux come to mind in this discussion.

Meizu must understand that they may lose sales due to their bizarre actions, contrary to the actions of their numerous competitors.

Meizu should understand that this is not a normal situation insomuch that they went out of their way to stop users from modifying their devices at all costs.

The user has provided valuable information - I'm personally glad he "took one for the team" so that no one else gets into a bind like this, rightly or wrongly.

Any user providing valuable information should not be attacked - they should be thanked (or ignored, at the least) - as they may help prevent another user from falling into the same trap (regardless of if it is their fault or an issue inherent with the device).

This poster understands (me) that this may all be a giant mistake and the user may have accidently bricked their device, resulting in this situation - in which case, everything written negatively about Meizu should be ignored and they can be considered another open standards device producer from whom I may purchase product in the future.

I'm sure I missed something, but I think everyone gets where I firmly stand.

[wolfgart]

In this device isn't GPL compliance

[geek]

@wolfgart,
Ignoring the GPL is common with chinese companies.. Even xiaomi doesn't comply with gpl. And we need not mention the hundreds of mediatek devices which are non gpl compliant They shouls but the don't.. But nothing much can be done about it as they are based in china.

Meizu's gpl compliance isn't going to help you debrick the device anyway..